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December 17, 2008

Robotic Partial Nephrectomy Versus Laparoscopic Partial Nephrectomy for Renal Cell Carcinoma: Single-Surgeon Analysis of >100 Consecutive Procedures

Source: UroToday

The mean total operative time (140 vs 156 minutes, P = .04), warm ischemia time (19 vs 25 minutes, P = .03), and length of stay (2.5 vs 2.9 days, P = .03) were significantly shorter for RPN than for LPN, respectively.

RPN can produce results comparable to LPN but has disadvantages, such as cost and assistant control of the renal hilum. Additional randomized trials are needed.

A friend and expert robotic renal surgeon, Dr Bhayani, discusses his results with robotic partial nephrectomy.

The most important finding is the improvement in warm ischemia time, the amount of time the kidney is not receiving blood supply.

Another important finding is that the operation can be done quicker robotically, which can translate into a cost savings that will partially offset the increased cost of the robotic equipment.

December 9, 2006

One person's daVinci experience

Jacky Lai: Here's The End of My Clerkship in Urology: "It's a 2-hour-surgery in traditional open surgery. Laparascopic surgery was invented to be faster and less invasive, but our robotic surgery - smaller wound but a lot more time. The major concept to prevent surgical complication is to reduce time consumption - do as fast as we could and make the wound as small as we could. The longer anesthetic time means the greater complication rate. Anesthetic time longer than 6 hours is by all means a critical risk factor in post-operative care, not to mention that patient with prostatic cancer in need of surgery is often old-aged. Quite frankly, I'm really disappointed with the Da Vinci Surgical System. It's so far an advertisement more than quality improvement."

I came across this blog entry online. From what I can tell, it was from a medical student observing a robotic prostatectomy.

I found several things interesting.
"Laparascopic surgery was invented to be faster and less invasive"- actually laparoscopy was invented to make things less painful and less invasive, but not faster. The first laparoscopic nephrectomy by Dr. Clayman took about 8 hours. As equipment improved and surgeons had more experience, the times improved to similar to open surgery, or in some cases, quicker.

"The major concept to prevent surgical complication is to reduce time consumption - do as fast as we could and make the wound as small as we could. The longer anesthetic time means the greater complication rate. Anesthetic time longer than 6 hours is by all means a critical risk factor in post-operative care, not to mention that patient with prostatic cancer in need of surgery is often old-aged."

This is simply inaccurate. there are many more factors important to reduce complications including blood loss, avoiding injuring other structures, preserving nerves and muscles. Time is not an important factor, especially in laparoscopy where there is minimal fluid loss.
Speed at all costs is often frowned on as it may lead to higher complications.
For lap or robotic prostate surgery I tell people that I am helping to train that they should try to keep the time to 7-8 hours when the patient has his head down as a general rule to help prevent problems from the positioning.

Prostate cancer patients are usually rather healthy since they usually would not have surgery unless they have a good 10 year survival.

I applaud your blogging and you certainly are entitled to your opinion, but the typical operation in my OR lasts 1 1/2-3 hours and is far superior than what I could achieve with traditional open surgery.

September 17, 2006

Surgeon hand pain during laparoscopic kidney removal

UroToday - Hand Pain during Hand-Assisted Laparoscopic Nephrectomy- An Ischemic Event?

One of my reasons for telling visiting urologists that I prefer robotic kidney surgery to laparoscopy is how much better I feel physically during a robotic vs. a laparoscopic surgery.

This abstract discusses the pain encountered by urologists during hand assist nephrectomies. I agree there is pain, but I notice it more if the hand port is relatively tight. The tighter it is, the more pain I have.

Regardless of the reason for the pain, I think most of us would agree that doing robotic kidney surgery in a comfortable fashion that the da Vinci provides may be better than operating with an ischemic, painful hand.